Mr Luke Haines

Hello Thomas. I will do a list, but not of ten and not this evening. Ten would look like a top ten and that would be wrong. I will do a one CD introduction tracklist, should Sony or whatever ask me to curate such a thing due to an administrative error or something. It won't be very exciting though, as I will not be daft enough to look past the obvious smash hit singles.

Hello Nico Rijnders. I actually did a The Very Best Of Luke Haines CD for someone quite recently - with handwritten comments for every song - but can't be bothered to go check what songs I included. Maybe I will later, when Highlander isn't on.

1. Rock 'n' Roll Communique No.1
2. Showgirl
3. Housebreaker
4. Lenny Valentino
5. Unsolved Child Murder
6. The Upper Classes
7. Government Bookstore
8. The Death of Sarah Lucas
9. Child Psychology
10. Off My Rocker at the Art School Bop (Richard X)
11. Baader Meinhoff
12. The Facts of Life
13. Russian Futurists Block Out The Sun
14. Leeds United
15. How to Hate The Working Classes
16. Home Again
17. What Happens When We Die

and i thought i was obsessive...obviously just mere amateur nest to you guys,
anyways... i am now a reborn funkateer, so no more group rumblings from moi, ;
just a load of diss on why you all would be cool twots dont dig on tha funk, y'all

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Nico Rijnders


1. Rock 'n' Roll Communique No.1
2. Showgirl
3. Housebreaker
4. Lenny Valentino
5. Unsolved Child Murder
6. The Upper Classes
7. Government Bookstore
8. The Death of Sarah Lucas
9. Child Psychology
10. Off My Rocker at the Art School Bop (Richard X)
11. Baader Meinhoff
12. The Facts of Life
13. Russian Futurists Block Out The Sun
14. Leeds United
15. How to Hate The Working Classes
16. Home Again
17. What Happens When We Die

Seamlessly segueing into this thread...

Basically an incredible tracklist. I would probably change the following:

Swap 'American guitars' for 'Showgirl'
Swap 'Oliver Twist Manifesto' (reprise) for 'Home again'
Find room for 'Dead sea navigators'
Lenny Valentino should be the Das Capital version
Upper Classes should be the BBC session version

Luke Haines is very good. His book is still good. Facts of life...what a song. 15 year old Thomas listened to it a lot. Look how that turned out.

Anyone got £75 spare?

http://hainesoutsidermusi...usic-more-details.html

Yeah, that's what outsider art is all about. Monetising the fanbase.

I don't know what to think. So that's Round One to Haines.

I think I'll have to wait and see how my car does in its MOT next month. Surely even I wouldn't purchase one of these, would I? I bet I would. Oh dear.

It's pretty much the bog standard flavour of the month marketing initiative though, no? Trumped up premium product, sold for ludicrous price to core fanbase.

Yeah but I am a sucker for all that stuff. Capitalism at its finest. I am basically an idiot.

The whole thing seems like a giant dig at Jandek.

http://www.nme.com/news/auteurs/52902

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Fortunately they sold out before I had a chance to buy one after coming home drunk, saving me £75 to spend on less worthwhile things like brakepads, suspension, etc.

I hope those were cycle brakepads and suspension.

Oh, don't get me started. Sadly not. Owning a car is the worst thing ever and I wish I didn't.

http://www.timmitchell.org.uk/T&L.html

So, Thomas, has much or any of this leaked and that? I haven't really looked, tbh.

I haven't seen any leaks (or heard any, for that matter). There is a review of one person's copy here. I'm sure the songs will turn up again on later albums. The whole project seemed a bit stupid but who am I to judge Haines for making 4 grand off some gullible fans for a few hours work? It might let him make a massively expensive album next.

P.s I do like his Twitter account.

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Should I buy another painting by his wife? The book sequel is very good. I read it at Latitude when I woke up early and couldn't get back to sleep.

why has he stopped doing outsider food? :(

Best thing on the internet.

Just reread this thread from beginning to end.
 
Thoroughly reccommended, a beautiful love story.

My Last FM

Haha, I read the sequel on my day off yesterday (which is a slight concern as I was in sole charge for most of it and she doesn't nap much. I think I put her rocking horse on the balcony so that I could concentrate). It is quite excellent. My favourite bit was obviously mini Glenn Hoddle on a stick. I might say more if I ever get domestic internet again.

"Mother, what's for tea?" 
 
"Liver sausage sandwich and cheese".
 
That such mundane, now anachronistic, words, emerging from a malevolent psychedelic fuzz, can provide easily the most sinister musical moment of the year is testament to the fine late period form that Luke Haines is in. 
 
I admit I hadn't rushed to Rounder Records to pick up Mr Haines' concept album about 70's wrestling, if I'm honest I feared a load of rushed off self indulgent weak tea glam rock, such as spoiled the promising Off My Rocker long player. 
 
But I've been listening to it a lot this week (it's only half an hour long, Mr Haines is a parent himself and always considerate of the time poor). 
 
It's another tremendous record. Warm, funny, affectionate, terrifying, heartbreaking, scary and always evocative.
 
I have to confess though, I seem to have been enjoying Luke Haines all wrong. So many reviews, even positive ones, just seem restate the same few ideas: sardonic, misanthropic, miserable, sarcastic, "clever lyrics". It does such a disservice to what are often warm, affectionate and thematically (and sonically) complex but coherent records. His voice is increasingly charming and musically he is more and more confident and adept. For instance, the track Big Daddy Got a Casio VL-Tone is uncannily like a track Martha and I did on her little keyboard, before she was sick in it (I am not making this up, we're getting her a new one for Christmas).
 
It's not just a grumpy man being nostalgic. One for the poster, as they say.
 
So grapple fans, can't wait to hear what Thomas thinks.
 
Although as ever I'd love to hear hoppo's thoughts, though would he have been a bit teenage for wrestling in the 70's?
 
Oh, and finally, sorry, I thought Maddix was talking about Haines's book in the post above. Ha.

An excellent review of an excellent album. I did write something about it somewhere, possibly the 2011 music thread. You're right about how reviewers seem to get the wrong end of the stick. Listening to Haines on a few radio interviews etc, he seems like a friendly chap very at peace with the world.
 
This is a very affectionate record, and very funny. He's got a lovely turn of phrase. The stuff in 'Rock opera in the key of existential misery' is quotable all the way through. I'm not gong to quote any now though, because it would ruin the surprise.
 
Sonically, he has found a really good groove. As Rijnders says, it is not annoyingly ironic glam like off my rocker.
 
I think that Haines is well on his way to becoming a national treasure. I wish he'd do a tour or something. I quite liked the sound of his Edinburgh show which is going to do a 'run' in London apparently.
 
I have only listened to the album on Spotify - crap internet connection permitting - so don't own a physical copy. I was waiting to see whether he did some kind of nice special edition thing with all those paintings he's been putting on his blog.  He's quite a good painter actually.
 
I think Hoppo would like this. He will be able to identify that the keyboard noise on Big Daddy Had A Casio VL Tone is the same as the noise at the start of Fortress/Deer Park, from The Fall's Hex Induction Hour album.
 
I look forward to hearing Little Rijnders's musical efforts when she headlines Latitude Festival 2030. 
 
I've got a face only a mother could love. I asked her once, she said "all love's conditional, son".

this album is really good. i think it's one of the albums which i'm just going to listen to once in a while on spotify rather than play to death but who knows, i'll put it on my christmas list and see what happens.
 
spent most of freshers week listening to After Murder Park, Baader Meinhof and the upper classes 

flattered that i am to be ask an opinion twice, i think i have already explained that luke haines, like vienna, means nothing to me...
 
that said...it has to be said is there any more retched phrase in us language than 'rock opera'...apart from of course actual opera, basically posh towts musicals...still if some one is going to insist on making such a wrank edifice then i guess no finer subject could be found than 70's uk wrestling...
 and yae Mr Rijnders, i do have fond memories of such saturday afternoon funtime watching the grappling with my gran...of course my memories are earlier than Big Daddy, (though i have heard some maybe apocryphal stories about B-D & Haystacks acting as enforces for the Tibb street pet shop mafia...though may be liablas ) but ask me about Mick McManus, Adrian Street, and of course the legendary Kendo Nagasaki...
 
there is a great documentary about English pop artist Peter Blake trying to do a portrait of early 70's masked wrestler Kendo Nagasaki...the man in the mask...up on youtube in parts...of course the masked one would not take his mask off, not even for the guy who did Beatles band covers...
 
so yes sounds interesting... still, is called a rock opera, so maybe best to give a wide birth to...
 
but will try to give a listen to the tune with classic casio sound...

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